IGTB - Don't Die (WIP) 5th draft
- Artist: IGTB
- Title: Don't Die (WIP) 5th draft
- Genre: experimental
- Length: 2:17 minutes (3.13 MB)
- Format: Stereo 44kHz 192Kbps (CBR)
New song I'm working on. Let me know if you want to play and I will put the parts into the collab folder. I found these interesting loops on splice after my system locked up there I went back and grabbed some of the loops I was working on. Couple of the loops are from splice users nintendo6110 and saturnvandel . The song is called Don't Die. Don't ask me why, I am working on lyrics right now, but this is where I usually hang up.
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timing
I'm hearing a timing glitch in Dont Die: the bass track has a negative offset about a 1/16, so its notes are kicking in a bit too early. Or the other way round: drums and synth have an offset about a 1/16, so they come too late against the bass.
Which tool did u use for mixing?
way off, I think it Died haha
Yes it is way off. The overall idea sounds ok I think but those misses are bad. The last half is lined up a bit better I will go in and rearrange it. I like things to be a little off sync or off cadence at times intentionally but not so blatant like the mid part seems to be. Bad is bad but sometimes you hit a very cool harmonic in trying to offset the cadence in a way you would not normally do. Good experiment though how does the over all sound scape appeal other than the messy offsets.
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1st half
Well I fixed the first half I think ok but need to rearange the second part a whole lot more. I'm trying to get an off beat a bit with that funky sounding synth but the bass line is messing me up a bit. I intend to replace this bass line with something more fluid after the main parts are lined up and will probably replace it with a bass synth piece altogether. Got a good idea for some vocals I think, shooting for a dance techno industrial sound.
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Well
Well I think I got it as good as I want it for now. When I put in the more fluid synth bass line later I think that will cancel out most of the timing glitches with a more harmonic blend as opposed to a dot dot dot bass line where it stands out at you. There will be more notes blending into those grooves and hopefully sound good as an end result. I know this probably make little musical since but I do everything by ear and many reworks if you know what I mean haha.
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Offbeats
Yes, I see what you mean. Still the tune appears a bit strange to my ears, because I can't decide to which instrument I should tap my feet - bass, drums and synth seem to play their beats independently. None of them is dominating, so my ear is kinda lost, haha. Maybe this changes when a vocal line comes in.
Probably shouldn't have
Probably shouldn't have added so prematurely, I've added a new beat to make it a little more industrial sounding and I too think once the new bass line is added and the vocals it will smooth up. Maybe it's just a bad song too haha and I can't get it along anymore, lost my touch maybe ha. it's fun messing with it but I should have kept it in the collab area since this is what we should be doing there, right, not here on the front page. Well maybe others will see what we are trying to do with the collab area.
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collab
Well after playing around with this tune I have decided to upload a version in the collab file folder without the mid bass parts and a new arrangement of the synth parts. I still have to align some of those pieces a bit better but it gives an idea as to what I am going after. I would like to have someone else add a mid region bass part to this tune. Hey idisidi you out there anywhere, maybe you want to play with it? Anybody's welcome to play with it if they want.
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you should
you should have uploaded individual parts ... because the arrangement is still not good to work with or remix :)
I will do
I will do that for you. Looking forward to see what you make of it.
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DontDie Clips
Just had a closer look at these nintendeo/saturnvandel-clips... now I see why it came to aligning problems: none of the original samples have been clipped correctly to make a seamless flow. There's both leading and ending gaps of different length. However the dominating speed is exactly 120 bpm.
Furthermore saturnvandel's bass line is manually played without quantisation - in average it has 65.3 bpm, but the single notes are pretty off any regular beat.
Given you didn't correct the clips before arranging, it's obvious to get such an odd WIP.
Anyway, corrected the clips now - had to split Saturnvandel's bass line into single notes, so you can recombine them (e.g. using Audacity) and produce decent patterns.
You'll find the files (as 32bit-floating-WAVs in DontDie.rar) in my collab folder.
Several infos are embedded in the file's names...
- 'Ab' means: sample plays note Ab, or plays in key Ab major
- '8b120' means: 8 beats, 120 bpm
- '921ms' means: sample duration is 921 milliseconds
DontDie :: Femal yeah
Found a nice female voice (singing yeah-yeah melody in Ebm) on my harddisk. She would nicely match our DontDie theme.
I've cut it to a 13-beats-sample @ 120 bpm - having 2 pre-beats, then 2 bars (8 beats) and 3 release beats - noted in the filename as 2+8+3b. Visually this looks like so:
Located as fem mel Ebm 2+8+3b120.wav in my collab folder.
Nice
It is very nice that we actually have someone like you on this site that can actually make awesome musical since out of my noise uhum I mean music hehe. This is good stuff to learn from. I was looking into these clips with out being in a better magnified perspective within audacity, by the time I got to my 6th draft which is still uncorrected I noticed these loop issues as well. I will look at those clips you have which I'm sure are much better to work with, I am anxious to check out that female vocal too. Very cool !!!
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well done
Those are much nicer clips you offered up there Asa. Well this whole collab effort is really about showing how I go recklessly about creating a music piece. I first get inspired by sound clips or even sound clips I extract from my brain or a particular hum or a whistle or maybe even a vocal idea in my head. Then using audacity, what I normally like to do is throw out some clips or a recording of my hum idea via synth or guitar clips etc. I first just throw them out there in a quick glance manor by scattering all of the pieces about the screen and put some separation between them for organizational reasons. I then like to go to the view mode and then select collapse all tracks view. This gives me a speed control for putting together my first rough draft. At this point I can generally get a good idea as to what I am going after. Then after so many of these first initial rough drafts I will then zoom in on the work and look for offsets and alignment issues of which in this example there are quite a few of these. As Asaguare had mentioned there are some bad clips being used in this mix that need to be polished up. Well Asa being the musical genius he is, it didn't take him long at all to do so. I am now working with his fixed loops and everything is aligning so much easier. If you want to learn more about this kind of thing Asa has put up a cool and very informative forum post on the subject.
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